Evette Schaeffer Serial Numbers Saxophone Players
- By Selmer serial numbers. Elkhart Band Instrument Co. Evette Schaeffer tenor sax. Evette Schaeffer Buffet Crampon C Melody Saxophone France. Buffet Crampon R13 Professional Wood Clarinet Great Player + New Pads $1,599.00: Evette Buffet. From the serial numbers from the years before and after.
- From my understanding, when you say Evette Schaeffer. Paul Evette and Ernest Schaeffer bought the Buffet-Crampon firm in 1885 and patented their first saxophone on July 25, 1887. Logo and the Evette & Schaeffer. Evette-Schaeffer Alto Sax Made in France Serial Number 14302; circa 1967 This horn was made by Malerne as evidenced by the: LH pinky.
Evette Schaeffer Serial Numbers Saxophone Types Evette-Schaeffer Alto Sax - Evette-Schaeffer Alto Sax Made in France Serial Number 14302; circa 1967 This horn was made by Malerne as evidenced by the: LH pinky table, low C spatula and 'tulip' shape on the bell keys keyguard). This makes it part of the 'Buffet family'.
Trying to figure out what year my alto was manufactured. The serial number is 5521. Any ideas? Photos included.
Evette & Schaeffer saxes are almost always stencil horns. This means that they have been made by one company on behalf of Buffet, for which the Evette & Schaeffer name is their budget line.
There have been quite a few different makers of this name over the years. This particular one was made by an Italian firm by the name of Grassi, which operated from 1958 until the early 2000's.
Serial number info prior to 1976 is pretty sketchy, but my best guess is that your sax was made in 1961 or 1962.
Those may interest you:
Evette and Evette & Schaeffer Identification
For anyone searching serial number lists.
First, you have to identify the model of clarinet. Is it an “Evette”, or an “Evette-Schaeffer”, or a true “Buffet”. Around 1978 the Evette and E&S models were dropped for the name change to B12, E11, etc.
Then you have to identify the location of manufacturing.
Evette – If it is made in Germany then it is a Shreiber made
clarinet. And these serial number lists have no correlation to Buffet.
You have to call Shreiber. If it is made in France then it may be on
the list below. If it is made in France with a letter prefix (such as “A”,
“B”, “C”, “D”, “E”) then it is made by Malerne.Evette-Schaeffer – if it is made in France with a letter prefix
(such as “A”, “B”, “C”, “D”, “E”) then it is made by Malerne. Their serial
numbers have no correlation to Buffets. If it is made in France then
it may be on the list below.
Buffet Crampon Clarinets
NOTE: The K series Evette-Schaeffer
clarinets are well known. But BUFFET has another K series serial number
and that is with the Buffet Limite (with silver plated keywork) clarinets.
These have the Buffet emblem on them versus an Evette-Schaeffer emblem and is
not related to this list.
Evette-Schaeffer
New factory(ish) serial number list
Who made the earlier Evette and E&S clarinets ?
Many of the earlier Evette and E&S clarinets were made by Malerne. They are recognizeable by the keywork, compare them to the Marlene page
here.
So with Evette and Evette & Schaeffer that basically means the A, B, D
and E series are Malerne made, which ironically coincides with Malernes
serial number conventions. Unless they are stamped “Made in Germany”
and those were Schreiber made.
Buffet made K41xx is based on a pre-R13 Buffet. Looks like one via
the keywork and matches the R13 keywork introduction. Remember, Buffet
did not introduce the separate throat keys posts until 1955ish. This
is the same with the E&S / Evette model line if it was made by Buffet.
This is obviously a Buffet professional model just with the
added Modele Evette & Schaeffer stamp added on
(pictures from eBay, April 2013)
Malerne made Evette & Scheffer B30xx – notice the small barrel trill key guide (Malerne
like) and this is an early non-adjusting screw model with shared post (Malerne
& Buffet like). Also notice the top key of the lower joint ring keys,
the top pad cup arm bends upwards – aka Malerne’s !!
Malerne made Evette, sn E1198
As an example, here is a higher quality Malerne stenciled Ledoux clarinet
sn D3693
E-S information provided by Rich Holmes
- “Plastic Evette became the B12.
- Wooden Evette became the E11.
- Evette Master Model became the E12.
- Evette & Schaeffer became the E13.
- Evette and Schaeffer Master Model is supposedly an R13 with cosmetic flaws (this one
is debateable as Buffet won`t give much info on this – some say it is an
acceptional sounding E13 – either way it`s a good clarinet)”
Evette-Schaeffer Master Model | From other discussion it appears the story about cosmetically flawed R13s being sold as E&S Master Models is incorrect — and that cosmetically flawed R13s have been sold as Buffet Academy models.Other recommendations include that some Master Models are R-13 (as are Olds Opera’s). But during what part of the R13 process were they declared not fit for R13s? This could occur any time in the R13 process. Therefore, theoretically a Master Model could be from the same wood selection only of an R13 all the way to the end of production after some visual flaws are found. So, theoretically, a Master Model could be an R13 in all ways except for a few visual flaws OR could only be from the wood selection of an R13, and all other things potentially different.Evette-Schaeffer Master Models range from K5000 to K11000 which corresponds to 1953 to approx 1961. These can be considered the best as they also correspond to the R-13 introduction.1960 Buffet Brochure about the E&S Master Model: “Instruments that embody considerable hand craftsmanship, as do all the Buffet products, will vary slightly from instrument to instrument. Those Evette & Schaeffer clarinets that surpass the superb quality characteristic of al E&S instruments, are set aside to comprise the ME-13 Master Model Evette & Schaeffer clarinets.” The 1968 price list for an “E&S E13” clarinet is $250 and for the E&S Master Model ME-13 is $299. The E13 would finally get a Buffet logo in the 1980s | The words “Master Model” may be above or below the logo; Upper and/or lower joint and/or bell |
Evette Master Model | The words “Master Model” may be above or below the logo |
Serial Numbers Nero
Serial | Date | Source | Markings | Case and notes |
2027 | eBay 9/06 | On bell and top joint: “Evette & Schaeffer” / “Paris” / “France” in oval. “Modele Buffet-Crampon” below oval. | Rectangular case, brown w/ brown lining, w/ lift clasps, holding barrel separate (maybe room for 2nd barrel or reed case), rear compartment. | |
56xx | eBay 9/06 | Modele Buffet-Crampon. | Rounded rectangular case, black w/ blue lining, w/ lift clasps, holding barrel separate, L side compartment. |